Please, resuscitate the weekly progress report, and give us a - short - roadmap.

"Alain Ravet" <alain.ravet.list@wanadoo.be> wrote in message
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>

It doesn't have to be exhaustive, nor detailed, but we need something to
get the community feeling back.

>

It's easier to be patient if you know when your train is scheduled.

Does the freight train always pass the station at 5a.m. ?! -- No, this is
abnormal... It is scheduled for 10 past 4 ;)

I do not think that you would be able to affect what they do anyway, if they
want to release 4.0 in November.

Michael J.

Michael Jouravlev wrote:
> Does the freight train always pass the station at 5a.m. ?! -- No,
> this is abnormal... It is scheduled for 10 past 4 ;)


I'm profoundly convinced people would stop whining/ranting/complaining
about feature X being being absent/buggy/incomplete/.. if they knew the
the JetBrains team is currently sweating to finish features Z and X,
because feature Y depends on it, and that feature Y should be finished
in 6-10 calendar days.


> I do not think that you would be able to affect what they
> do anyway, if they want to release 4.0 in November.


How long would it take one person, once a week, to type 7-15 line to
summarize the work they have just finished.

How long would it take, one person, just once, to write a 10-20 line
roadmap. We don't need more than that. I don't. Don't you?

Alain

Alain Ravet wrote:

Michael Jouravlev wrote:
> Does the freight train always pass the station at 5a.m. ?! -- No,
> this is abnormal... It is scheduled for 10 past 4 ;)


I'm profoundly convinced people would stop whining/ranting/complaining
about feature X being being absent/buggy/incomplete/.. if they knew the
the JetBrains team is currently sweating to finish features Z and X,
because feature Y depends on it, and that feature Y should be finished
in 6-10 calendar days.


> I do not think that you would be able to affect what they
> do anyway, if they want to release 4.0 in November.


How long would it take one person, once a week, to type 7-15 line to
summarize the work they have just finished.

How long would it take, one person, just once, to write a 10-20 line
roadmap. We don't need more than that. I don't. Don't you?

Alain

I have to agree with Alain, we've at least asked for the roadmap a few
times before, been promised that, and then nothing.

R

While I agree, I must disagree. I'm a developer and I know how much of a
PAIN it is to do yet another status report.

I have an idea for a compromise.

How about adding estimated dates for the features to the
http://www.intellij.net/eap/products/idea/aurora.jsp page?

"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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Alain Ravet wrote:

Michael Jouravlev wrote:
> Does the freight train always pass the station at 5a.m. ?! -- No,
> this is abnormal... It is scheduled for 10 past 4 ;)

>
>

I'm profoundly convinced people would stop whining/ranting/complaining
about feature X being being absent/buggy/incomplete/.. if they knew the
the JetBrains team is currently sweating to finish features Z and X,
because feature Y depends on it, and that feature Y should be finished
in 6-10 calendar days.

>
>

> I do not think that you would be able to affect what they
> do anyway, if they want to release 4.0 in November.

>
>

How long would it take one person, once a week, to type 7-15 line to
summarize the work they have just finished.

>

How long would it take, one person, just once, to write a 10-20 line
roadmap. We don't need more than that. I don't. Don't you?

>

Alain

>
I have to agree with Alain, we've at least asked for the roadmap a few
times before, been promised that, and then nothing.

>

R

>

How long would it take one person, once a week, to type 7-15 line to
summarize the work they have just finished.

It usually took me from 30 to 60 minutes (but this also included some
moments when I was interrupted by someone).

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


"Alain Ravet" <alain.ravet.list@wanadoo.be> wrote in message
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Michael Jouravlev wrote:
> Does the freight train always pass the station at 5a.m. ?! -- No,
> this is abnormal... It is scheduled for 10 past 4 ;)

>
>

I'm profoundly convinced people would stop whining/ranting/complaining
about feature X being being absent/buggy/incomplete/.. if they knew the
the JetBrains team is currently sweating to finish features Z and X,
because feature Y depends on it, and that feature Y should be finished
in 6-10 calendar days.

>
>

> I do not think that you would be able to affect what they
> do anyway, if they want to release 4.0 in November.

>
>

How long would it take one person, once a week, to type 7-15 line to
summarize the work they have just finished.

>

How long would it take, one person, just once, to write a 10-20 line
roadmap. We don't need more than that. I don't. Don't you?

>

Alain

>

I completely agree with Alain, having requested this many time as well like a lot of others.
Like Alain I firmly believe that knowning what is going on will keep the noise on the forums down. It might even pay for itself by saving the 30mn-60mn it takes to do it in SCR/post handling.

Jacques

Jacques Morel wrote:

I completely agree with Alain, having requested this many time as
well like a lot of others. Like Alain I firmly believe that knowning
what is going on will keep the noise on the forums down. It might
even pay for itself by saving the 30mn-60mn it takes to do it in
SCR/post handling.

+1000