Scrollbar colour & behavior

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1) Scrollbar color not good in terms of contrast. Got 100% brightness, night mode off on display, in dark room with no sunlight. Still it is not visible and sometimes I have to search it. Not good for eyes in long term operation!

 

2) Behavior of scrollbar is like Windows 3.11. If you drag scrollbar handle, it does what expected. If you drag mouse in scrollbar area, but not directly on scrollbar handler, the behavior is unexpected and does unexpected moves. Which means u have to search for scrollbar handle then and use it. This is connected to problem #1

 

Does any user use clicking on scrollbar area outside of the handler? I was doing also UI components for a while, also develop my own scrollbar components back in Adobe Flash (actionscript 2 and actionscript 3) days.  I don't understand this purpose from UI/UX viewpoint.

 

Also I have touchscreen Windows 10 laptop, it would be great if it would take some advantage of it for scrolling.

 

I'm longtime IDEA user, but these are UI/UX things that does not make me happy. Also the scrollbars are very tiny.

When u r used to mousewheel, you don't see these problems. But when u don't have mousewheel available u start to see these little things that breaks UX.

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Yes, thank you. Seems like small thing, but it generates a lot of issues for you and also lot of emotions haha.

 

What is your tracker for? For example this issue: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-131474

 

It was submitted and seems like accepted, but it is from year 2014. Now 4 years later, no change with the issue. No version, no build info. So posting issue on your tracker does not make sense.

 

It would be cool if you built just API for source analysis and let your users, which are developers, build their own UI around that.

 

Argument about tiny scrollbar is not argument in 2018. Why? Because there are HiDPI screens you added support for. Even on laptop my screen has a big resolution, so more fat scrollbar would not hurt.

 

My recommendation:

1) Allow users to build their own frontend on top of your backend

OR

2) Make more templates than just white & black with same UX quirks

OR

3) Hire a better UI/UX designer

AND

Think more about your users. Get some feedback from them based on some survey, then make decisions. Not like one person creates working environment for developers from 10 to 100 years that is being used daily.

 

PS: Try to use your keyboard shortcuts on various laptop keyboards, especially those with no full keyboard. Totally useless.

 

I have multitouch screen, it would be great if editor pane would scroll like in internet browser. But it does select the text as if doing left mouse click and text selection. If at least touch screen support would work, I could ignore the epic scrollbar thing, lol.

BTW: Based on number of issues, maybe you could create own category for scrollbar in your tracker (joke) :-D

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IntelliJ IDEA is open source, you can create your own IDE based on it with your own UI and features and reuse code analysis/inspection tools. Or you can submit a patch to fix the scrollbars.

YouTrack issues are processed in order of importance and votes from the users. Each release cycle project leads decide which issues should be addressed. There were probably more important issues to fix first than IDEA-131474.

We have a team of great UI/UX designers and they did a tremendous job in making IntelliJ IDEA much better than it was before.

Thank you for the feedback.

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Ahhh, you don't mention you have github account. I didn't know for a lot of years, just now: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community ...thank you very much. At least I can hack my way through it during the weekends.

 

EDIT: Clicked through ur website now again and verified there is no github link. Had to google it after u told me now.

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